Re: PC: Re: Lightning stripes in the PC era? NOPE--nor for RS-11s

["Bill K." <pontiac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Since when does Lionel making something make them an athority?  They made
Penn Central steam engines, too.   In any case Weaver is who did
RS11's/RSD12's, and for some reason they did the LV and D&H units on the
6-axle version (incorrect) based on advertising photos.

Atlas as I understand knew the LS RS11's were never operated by the NYC, but
chose to run them this way anyhow.   Obviously a wise choice given how
they've been selling.   It makes sense since it's a little splashier than
just plain black -

Bill K.

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From: "SP SD45T-2" <erie-lackawanna -AT- prodigy.net>
To: <penn-central -AT- smellycat.com>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: PC: Re: Lightning stripes in the PC era? NOPE--nor for RS-11s


> Lionel is also offering these same NYC RS-11's in O Scale, so they are not
bogus. Since they were at Selkirk NYC had to use them around the area. Fact
is they were ordered and delievered so they are not bogus units. They also
have d/b's that 8000-8009 do not have. This leaves the 8015-8019 slot open
for more RS-11's of possibly C420's later.....Jerome
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> From: "Patrick Harris" <seaboardempire -AT- earthlink.net>
> To: penn-central -AT- smellycat.com
> Sent: January 15, 2001 4:14:23 AM GMT
> Subject: Re: PC: Re: Lightning stripes in the PC era? NOPE--nor for RS-11s
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> >From what I am seeing in pics, some units may have been placed in
deadlines to finish out their trust (especially minority builders) or due to
a "major malfunction" while still in lightening stripes. Most of those were
scrapped or traded in on NYC's late 50's/early 60's fleet modernization
efforts, at least as I understand it. Perhaps you could create a deadline of
ratty pre-PC NYC/PRR units...sounds cool to me!
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> patrick
> seaboardempire -AT- earthlink.net
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jerry Jordak
>   To: penn-central -AT- smellycat.com
>   Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 9:57 PM
>   Subject: Re: PC: Re: Lightning stripes in the PC era? NOPE--nor for
RS-11s
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>   Patrick Harris wrote:
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>   > In NYC Lightning Stripes, Vol. 2, page 50, there is a photo of a covey
of RS-11's in LS, BUT the
>   > caption says: "Six RS-11's were assembled by ALCO in 1960 on the basis
of a verbal commitment from
>   > an NYC official, but they were never accepted by the NYC and remained
in storage at Selkirk
>   > roundhouse through 1960. Eventually they were purchased by the D&H and
repainted by ALCO in their
>   > new gray and blue color scheme early in 1961. These RS-11's
(#8009-8014) were the ONLY ONES
>   > (added emphasis) delivered in lightning stripes as the first group
(#8000-8009) were painted black......"
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>   Interesting.... According to that, the Atlas RS-11 models in lightning
>   stripes then are bogus, although the numbers are correct (8011 and
>   8014). Apparently whoever at Atlas decided on the paint scheme either
>   looked at the wrong photos, or didn't read the entire caption...
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>   Thanks for the info!
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>   -JWJ
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