Re: PC: : B units

["NEW HAVEN U25B" <erie-lackawanna@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

CNW SD40-2, C40-8W, "some", GP9's (like NYC) were dynamic equiped. All newer
IC Power does come equiped with dynamics.  There is not additional
maintenance with dynamics if they are not used.  Lack of feature was mainly
due to economics, getting more dynamic brakeless units for traction than
fewer with dynamics which was why BM and NH ordered their second generation
units minus the feature even though they needed it. CNW also got the
Ex-Reading U30C's from CR beside the SD45's
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill K. <pontiac -AT- dreamscape.com>
To: <penn-central -AT- smellycat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: PC: : B units


> CNW did not use dynamic brakes and their GP7, GP9, GP30, SD40, and SD45
> locomotives do not have them, among others.  The SD45 is the most
> noticeable because they look wierd as the only SD45's without - the flare
> ends at the front of the radiators.  (They did later buy used SD45's from
> CR and BN which did not lose the dynamics).  IC removed dynamics from a
> fleet of used BN SD40-2's recently eliminating the need to maintain them,
> it does happen.  A railroad in flatland territory or who is just plain
> cheap has no need for them.  I've seen CNW SD40-2's without DB myself here
> in ex-PC territory.  Speaking of which, this debate is just a few miles
> off-topic so, before Jer yells at us.. :o)  new topic?
>
> Which ex-PC SD45 got a Cat deisel in an aborted CNW rebuild program?  I
> know they bought a number of ex-CR SD45's, which were primarily PC's I
> think - at the same time they picked up some BN units as well.  One
> prototype or two were done and then the program was cancelled and the
> remaining units run into the ground and sold off/scrapped.  CNW was good
at
> getting miles out of other people's junk for a while in the 70's/80's.
>
> Bill K.
>
> ----------
> > From: NEW HAVEN U25B <erie-lackawanna -AT- prodigy.net>
> > To: penn-central -AT- smellycat.com
> > Subject: Re: PC: : B units
> > Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 11:04 PM
> >
> > They would have no reason to remove dynamics since they do not interfere
> > with operation of the unit. Besides CNW used the feature on freight
> units.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bill K. <pontiac -AT- dreamscape.com>
> > To: <penn-central -AT- smellycat.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 11:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: PC: : B units
> >
> >
> > > Okay.   CNW forces who are capable of adding a cab to a B unit can't
> > remove
> > > the dynamics from the same units?
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > > From: NEW HAVEN U25B <erie-lackawanna -AT- prodigy.net>
> > > > To: penn-central -AT- smellycat.com
> > > > Subject: Re: PC: : B units
> > > > Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 2:25 PM
> > > >
> > > > They cannot be Ex-UP since they do not have dynamics. CNW had F40's
> > > suppied
> > > > by Amtrak and METRA so they were not about to purchase new units.
> > Anyway,
> > > > they did look better than them ugly bulldog E's. Crandel's had
better
> > > vision
> > > > than an E
>
>