Re: PC: Penn Central X79 cars

[Mark_Branibar@xxxxxxxxxxx]

These cars were built by Thrall during May and June 1973.  It's a good bet
that the lease to PC was a ten year type lease.  This would mean that the
cars would have reverted back to Kellog's around June 1983.  That would
make the 10-83 ORER the first issue that would list them with Kellog's KELX
reprting marks.  Older ORER issues used to list an effective date for the
issue of about two months before the cover date...example:  July 19__ issue
effective May 1, 19__.  I doubt the 7-83 ORER would have listed these cars
under KELX.





"Patrick Harris" <seaboardempire -AT- earthlink.net>@smellycat.com on 04/02/2002
03:08:32 PM

Please respond to penn-central -AT- smellycat.com

Sent by:  owner-penn-central -AT- smellycat.com


To:   <penn-central -AT- smellycat.com>
cc:
Subject:  Re: PC: Penn Central X79 cars


Kellog's KELX is not listed in the 1981 ORERs. KELX does appear in my 04-82
edition with a series of 100 60' box cars other than the ones in question.
The 281XXX series appears in the 10-83 issue. I do not have the 07-82,
10-82, 01-83, 04-83 or 07-83 issues, but between April 1982 and October
1983, the cars went off lease to CR (formerly PC) and went to Kellog, for
whose service the cars had been leased by PC/CR in the first place (as I
understood their service). I would also remind everyone that some roads
were
slow to report roster changeds to the ORER folks, but perhaps we can rely
on
this one since the KELX reporting mark was established and entered the year
immediately preceding, in 1982....and CR's records HAVE to have been better
than PC's.

Patrick
seaboardempire -AT- earthlink.net


----- Original Message -----
From: Seth Lakin <s_lakin -AT- hotmail.com>
To: <penn-central -AT- smellycat.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: PC: Penn Central X79 cars


> Frank, I've got 2 ORER's that I have here at home. 1978 shows PC
reporting
> for 91 of the cars and CR for 9. In the 1985 ORER shows 97 of these
wearing
> KELX reporting marks. If I find some time today or tomorrow, I'll run
over
> to the hobby shop down the road look through his ORER's to see if I can
> narrow down the change over date.  I also want to model 2 or 3 of these
> cars. I haven't given it any thought of how to build any. Got any ideas?
>
> Seth Lakin
> Lafayette, IN
>
>
> >From: ostlingerfrank -AT- netscape.net (Frank Ostlinger)
> >Reply-To: penn-central -AT- smellycat.com
> >To: penn-central -AT- smellycat.com
> >Subject: PC: Penn Central X79 cars
> >Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 13:29:32 -0500
> >
> >Hello folks,
> >
> >I'm looking for some information on PC's fleet of X79 60'
outside-braced,
> >double plug-door boxcars, such as this one:
> >
> >http://prozac.cwru.edu/jer/pc/pics/equip/kelx281342.jpg
> >
> >I know these were built by Thrall in 1973, owned by Kellogg's, and
leased
> >to PC. Does anyone know when they began appearing with KELX reporting
> >marks?
> >
> >Many thanks,
> >
> >Frank Ostlinger
> >
> >
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