PC: FL9 update - additional info.

[Robert Holzweiss <robert.holzweiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I wrote:
6. Time seems to have run out for the real FL9's.  Many stored around Harmon and at Croton North.  Some rebuilt CONDOT (NH livery) still in service.  I don't know if any are destined for a museum.  I suppose Danbury is already in negotiations.  

Jerry Jordak replied:
So what are they using on the Danbury and Waterbury trains? They were still
using the FL9s when I was up there around this time last year. A Metro-North
mud missile just wouldn't look right crossing the Naugatuck River at Ansonia...

Jerry and listers - 
Further information about the FL9's that are stored:
At Croton North (all MNCR) - 2022, 2033 (last F-unit built former NH/PC/CR 5059), 2030, 2028, 2021, 2031.  All these never had HEP installed but some did have pass through lines.  Some (2021 and 2022 for sure) still have their steam generator intact.  MNCR 2029 was stored behind the shops being used for parts for a long time but fences now obstruct the view.  The units stored at Croton North are ripe for vandalism, the doors and windows are all open.  They are stored right along the main shielded from the road by a line of equipment on the adjacent track.  Some of them are already missing parts such as third rail shoes.

Active FL9's that I saw: NH 2006 and NH 2027.  The others are probably working the Upper Harlem Line and in CT.  The Hudson line is now almost entirely new Genesis units with pairs of FL9AC's running back to back.



Any idea how much one of those would go for scrap value if Metro-North were
to sell them? 

Depends if it is operable, and if not, how much work is needed.  Inoperable stripped E-Units go for $5,000-$10,000 as scrap.  I would guess (ballpark) an FL9 in working order would go for $80,000 (no HEP of course).  Inoperable with minor problems $40,000 - $60,000.  Scrap - $8,000-$12,000.  Reselling these units may be problematic because they are of little value as freight haulers and are quite worn out.  It is a pity that these may go the same route as the New Jersey Transit collection.  NJT held on to passenger cars, locos, and electrics (many in PC paint) for years until they were completely vandalized then decided to donate them.  Now restoration costs tens of thousands.

Robert Holzweiss
"Robert.Holzweiss -AT- bush.nara.gov"