Re: PC: Penford Tower Train Symbols

[klawson@xxxxxxxxxx (kimberly lawson & adrian telizyn)]

>From: "Jeff & Laural Feldmeier" <J-LFeldmeier -AT- worldnet.att.net>
>To: "kimberly lawson & adrian telizyn" <klawson -AT- pris.bc.ca>
>Subject: Re: PC: Penford Tower Train Symbols
>Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 20:17:48 -0400
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>> >BM-7
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>> >CR-4/Elkhart/Detroit- River Rouge (Daily)
>> >DE-7/Pittsburgh -Conway/Detroit- River Rouge.(Daily ex. Mon.)
>> >DSL-1 Detroit- River Rouge/ Toledo (daily)
>> >MC-2/Toledo/Detroit River Rouge (daily)
>> >MC-8/Toledo/Detroit River Rouge (daily)
>> >ML-9/North Bergen/Detroit River Rouge (multilevels) (daily) via Canada
>> >TJ-2/Toledo/Jackson.
>> >TL-2/LJ-2 Toledo-Lansing/ Lansing-Jackson
>>
>> The schedule was:
>> West or South
>>                 TL2/LJ2        DSL1     ML9
>>
>> CP85(Nia Falls)                        1525
>> St Thomas                              1827
>> Windsor                                2045
>> Detroit          0200          0800    2125
>> YD
>> Alexis                         1115
>> Toledo                         1215
>> Jackson          0530
>> Grand Rapids
>> Kalamazoo
>> Lansing          1159
>>
>>
>> East or North
>>
>>                 MC2      MC4   MC8     CR4    DE7     TL2/LJ2
>> Lansing
>> Kalamazoo
>> Grand Rapids
>> Jackson
>> Toledo          0530           1900    2350   0730     2230
>> Alexis          0700           2030    0020   0830     2330
>> YD              0900
>> Detroit         1000    0001   0130    0500   1045     0200
>> Windsor                 0030
>> St Thomas               0302
>> CP85                    0630
>>
>>
>> From "Northern Region Timetable #5, Canada, Detroit, and Michigan
>> Divisions. Effective 25 Oct, 1970"
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>Adrian,
>
>Many thanks for the info.  Yes, this helps.
>
>It amazes me the big time trains PC and CR ran on the Lincoln
>Industrial/Secondary.  Why didn't they use the ex-NYC lines between Toledo
>and Detroit for these runs?  In order to access the Lincoln they would have
>to pay trackage rights fees to the C&O between Alexis (Toledo) and
>Carleton.  On the train sheets some ran almost every day on the Lincoln,
>others a few times a week, others very rarely.  I can only guess that some
>were detours due to maintenance or derailments or due to congestion.  You
>indicate that ML-9 ran via Canada.  My info confirms that they ran over the
>Canada Southern.  However on at least a few occasions, this train must have
>run via the water level route via Albany, Buffalo, and Toledo, and then up
>the C&O to the Lincoln.
>
>Jeff

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